Ferrara vs Rome Research

There is a little known but big battle going on in Italy in a gross mismatch between a popular heavy weight champion vascular surgeon and a relatively unknown welter weight chiropractic contender. The battle is to see who is right and who is better when it comes to the cause and treatment of MS.

In one corner you have the hometown favorite, heavy weight vascular surgeon Dr. Paulo Zamboni of the University of Ferrara, Italy. In his corner, Zamboni is backed millions of research dollars and many colleagues in western medicine throughout the world. On top of that, his family name is famous among millions of dedicated loyal hockey fans throughout the US, and especially Canada, who will stick with him through thick and thin as they say in ice country. As as an aside, however, research may soon show that hockey is part of the problem, which could work somewhat against the famous Zamboni name. Dr. Zamboni’s is using venous angioplasty (others doctors are also using stents) to improve venous drainage and successfully treat MS patients. His results so far have been spectacularly stunning to say the least. He has already racked up a lot of points and he has the international spotlight shining down upon him. Suddenly, overnight, he has become a super star. It’s looks as though the contest is over before it has even begun.

In the other corner, sitting in the shadows is a little guy, Dr. Stephen Conicello, an unknown welter weight American of Italian descent, who graduated from a not so well known chiropractic college in the US. Nonetheless, don’t be fooled and never underestimate your opponent. Size and celebrity can be decieving. Sometimes it’s the little guy who moves like a butterfly and stings like a bee that catches you offguard and unaware.

Dr. Conicello has trained hard and will be representing Rome using his special brand of upper cervical chiropractic technique, which Zamboni is most likely unfamiliar with. Conicello clearly has a small contingent of dedicated fans and supporters and a little financial backing, but certainly no major research money behind him. On a good note, in his corner, are two heavy weight champions themselves: Drs. Marceca and Mandolis, MD also representing Rome’s research. Unlike most medical doctors, especially American medical doctors, who started the original smear campaign against chiropractic over a hundred years ago and stifled its progress, rather than contiune to fight these two doctors decided to throw in the towel and join forces to work with chiropractors in treating MS patients. Someone break open a bottle of Brunella. This is a moment for some serious centennial celebration.

No one has all the answers to the mystery of MS, but chiropractors certainly have some pretty good ideas, and although comparatively much smaller, some really rock solid sound science, as well as highly valuable research behind them, despite having been severely stifled for over one hundred years. Although the numbers can’t compare or begin to compete with Zamboni’s widely supported research, so far upper cervical chiropractic results have been likewise remarkable.

Who will win this contest is anybody’s guess. Certainly, the odds are heavily in favor of Zamboni a hometown hero with home court advantage in his famous town of Ferrara, Italy. Odds are that Zamboni’s will knock Conicello right out of the research ring without much of a fight. Rome is on the ropes, but rumor has it Conicello has some pretty slick moves up his sleeve that most medical doctors are unaware of. Now if some MS patients would just step up to the plate, stick their necks out and take a chance on upper cervical corrective care, Conicello just might get a fighting chance to slip in some of his quick little painless jabs and catch his opponent’s research completely by surprise.

While the odds are clearly stacked against Rome, Rome is an old pro when it comes to competition, well seasoned with lots of experience and has a long history of spectacular triumphs, achievements and successes on its side. I’m not betting kind, but if I did, I would be willing to bet that whatever the outcome, MS patients are going to come out winners in this contest. As a retired chiropractor, I’m rooting for the long shot little guy representing Rome and upper cervical care.

24 Responses to Ferrara vs Rome Research

  1. I would agree with your last statement. Being an Upper Cervical Chiropractor, I’m proud of the work Dr. Conicello is doing. Not to discount Zamboni’s research at all, which is remarkable, but Upper Cervical Chiropractic is completely non-invasive, which is what I would want if I had MS.

    • I too am proud of what Dr. Conicello, as well as many other chiropractors are doing for their patients with neurodegenerative diseases. Nonetheless, Dr. Zamboni and Ferrara are racking up a great deal of research points while Dr. Conicello and Rome are far behind in numbers comparatively speaking. On the other hand, if more MS patients would be willing to step up to the plate, stick their necks out just a little and take a chance on Dr. Conicello and specific chiropractic upper cervical care, Rome just might make a significant comeback and a big contribution to CCSVI and MS research. Specific upper cervical care is far less invasive, risky and costly, and Rome, the home to many historical events and great achievements is the perfect place for chiropractic to make its own contribution to this new direction of research into the cause and correction of neurodegenerative diseaes. Personally, I know it’s a stretch, but I’m rooting for Rome.

  2. jane dandrea says:

    if only i could be in rome to be given this chance. i’m afraid i would run over anyone with my wheelchair trying to stop me from sticking my neck or back or bottom “of spine” out. this is really exciteing . although i am grateful to zambonni for getting it out there about ccsvi and i tried the treatment but it did not help me. i never back stepped with any thoughts that the fall i had brought on these symptoms they call ms.

    here i go again, any chiro.’s that you may know of that have the expertee to replicate your work or dr. conicello’s near pittsburgh, pa. or morgantown w.va. [yes, i live in s.w. pa. between the two.]i would really appreciate knowing about them. i’ve tried many but so far they for whatever reason just did not have the right snap crackle or pop. i’ll be watching this site in hope.

    although i will remain a peaceful ally to dr. zambonni because for some that have other issues as far as blood flow it seems to help and it is good he got the ball rolling. but whatever dr. conicello has up his sleeve i hope it is shared soon. i got a sneaky suspecion you ,dr. flanagan, have a real good idea of what it is. so, let the games begin and my money is on dr. conicello too.

    i have to tell you that you, your writing and description of this matter is so intertaining and well put not to mention the knowledge and experience you back it with.

    • Drs Flanagan says:

      Jane, You have a difficult case and I don’t know anyone off hand in your area. But tell me what are your signs and symptoms, and how long have you been in the wheelchair and why. Are your legs weak, painful or both? Do you have balance problems?

  3. jane dandrea says:

    dr. flanagan,some my signs and symptoms-started about 1 wk. after fall. first was bad low back pain and r. hip pain and arm felt stoved up and neck felt kinda stiff but no real bad pain in neck but an odd sensation of a pressure and gnawing feeling at the base of my skull right where i previously got hit in the 70’s that as well and an odd like pressure pain in r. groin area -drag of r. leg when exerted-then came slight drop foot-then r. arm started having weakness. at first i noticed that if i rested flat on my back it seemed to help for awhile and i could get up and do stuff normal for awhile but if i just sat or laid on my side i did not get as much relief or strength. i went chiro.’s as i said. then i had the hysteroctomy from hell and questioned why would my neck feel so sore and stiff after. i later found out that when doing this at that time they really tilt you and puts a lot of pressure on the neck and head “like that really helped matters”after that i started having temp. changes especially in feet 1 side hot one cold then the r. side started turning bright red or sometimes purple. my leg felt very heavy as i said when i look up and tilt my head i could move better especially my r.hand. when i would get a massage and right where there is a dimple on each side above the buttocs if that was worked on my feet would warm. i had really bad low back pain and hip. then the heat sensivity started and extreme cold causes much weakness then i started getting a burning kind of sizzle uneasy feeling in my meat of both legs. then the bladder problems started which is extremely overactive now especially in bed. never any balance problems except once in awhile when neck is strained at a certain angle i have a spinning room thing that the chiro. would resolve. the left side was not involved much until about 2 yrs. ago after some extreme stress it is now catching up. i fell but not hard and broke my r. leg about the same time and had to be in wheelchair and thus has become full time. i still can stand but not for long without holding on my legs are weak especially r. side as r. arm and hand as my whole body is becoming. as far as pain in legs it is more of an aggitated burny deep itchy feeling in the meat of legs only. my feet are both very purple kind reddish but if i say move or kinda drag along with a walker the color becomes normal or in the morning the color is normal but not long after being in wheelchair they are dark and swollen. i never experienced numbness but immediatly after ccsvi treatment my left leg was numb and remains but not quite as bad it fluctuates. i wonder if where it was ballooned a nerve might have been affected?? also now the radiating pain i get now and then in bed starting at the base of my skull where injured in the 70’s seems worse. nucca did eleviate the back pain and tmj. i know this is over kill with my story but i so don’t want anything missed as i feel happened to me as i feel no one has listened or knew what to do. but you seem to. thank you. to shorten this would be weak legs with with paralysis r. leg- left leg catching up. aggitated burny itchy feeling in muscles of legs no balance problems ever only once in awhile when neck strained and tilted. heat and real cold intolerence get very immobile and weak. extreme overactive bladder especially during the night. r. arm and hand almost immobil left catching up. very purple feet and after wheelchair swelling. my core body strength is getting weaker and some leg spasm i think due to inactity. radiating pain at base of skull traveling up back of head when in bed that comes and goes “wakes me up” and with different positioning helps for some reason if i can get my arm bent with my hand kind of under my cheek it helps. posture is very bad. i so much appreciate any advice or if you come across someone in my area. “i’d make a real good research specimen”

    • Drs Flanagan says:

      Jane, 1)Do you have a brain scan and if so, do you have any lesions? 2)Do you have any cervial x-rays or x-rays of the low back?

      You definitely have problems with your spine including the upper cervical spine and base of the skull but the upper cervical spine is not the major source of your problem. It sounds to me as though you have a serious problem with your low back that is causing the leg weakness, swollen feet and burning itching sensation you are getting in your legs.

      You said you feel warmth when the dimple area of the buttocks is massaged. That is a telltale sign right there. The dimple area in the buttocks you describe is the sciatic notch. There are several important neurovascular tunnels in the front and back of the pelvis that contain the nerves and blood vessels that go to the leg. The sciatic tunnels are in the buttocks right where you call the dimples. In addition to falls you also had a hysterectomy which can cause scars and soft tissue changes in the pelvis.

      I stongly believe that you have a bad tunnel syndrome in your pelvis. It is similar to a thoracic outlet syndrome or carpal tunnel syndrome in the upper extremities. Tunnels sydromes trap both nerves and blood vessels. A real bad thoracic outlet or carpal tunnel syndrome will turn the hand red and then blue. People often decribe warm itchy feelings. Those symptoms are caused by circulatory problems, similar to contact rashes from poison ivy for example that cause skin to turn red and swell and then itch like crazy from histamine release.

  4. jane dandrea says:

    dr. flanagan, i have an mri of i think brain an cervical taken about18 mo. ago. the neuro if i recall correctly told me that i had the lesion on cervical which has always been there from the beginning and basically is unchanged. when i questioned the fact that there had never been lesions on the brain he said there is some grey matter showing now recently and small brain shrinkage that he attributes to getting older,but did not look like ms lesions- i’m 64. i would be more than happy to send the cd to you if it might help. i have no spinal xrays available. the last 8 yrs. i sort of gave up and did not pursue chiro. until i heard of nucca. being the injury was in 1990 and all the posture changes taking place if you could tell me what kind to get and i can find a chiro. willing to take the kind of xrays you need-would that help? again, so sincerely appreciated.

    • Drs Flanagan says:

      Hmm. Let me give this some thought. You need basic AP and Lateral views of the cervical and lumbar spine to start with to find out the degree of cartilage damage, and what conditon your spinal curves are in. Let me see if I can find someone near Pittsburg but it won’t be easy. If you don’t hear from me in a day or two then get back to me.

  5. jane dandrea says:

    dr. flanagan, i also have a cd of ccsvi procedure showing where they balooned. you can see some skeletal but i was laying down. just thought i’d mention. as i got the left leg numbness immediately after procedure.

    • Drs Flanagan says:

      Jane go to the SORSI website or google search for sacrooccipital technique and go to the SORSI website home page. Go to locate doctors and tell me if any of towns the doctors practice in are close to you. If not let me know and we will go to plan B.

  6. jane dandrea says:

    dr. flanagan, sorsi list 1 in washington, pa. it is 45 mi. away. it list they have been members for 6 yrs. travel is not my friend but this could be dooable i think. i take it that these chiro.’s took extra training to specialize in this like say a nucca chiro. specializes in the atlas? there are some in my hometown that list sacrooccipital technique in their add but if sorsi listed chiro. you feel is the best then so be it. this is probably my last shot due to 20 yrs. since fall, 64 yrs old and progression of the symptoms they want to call ms. now, i know you said this could effect even the thoracic and neck. do i see what results i get and then see a nucca chiro if needed?i’m jumping the gun i know but just wondered. if i told them why and how i decided this route do you ever consult or recommend a strategy to someone like them or would that be out of line? i would feel very comfortable with that-as you said i am a difficult case. thanks so much again for your time and info.

    • Drs Flanagan says:

      Hi Jane, Don’t schedule any appointments yet. Let me check out the chiros in Wahsington, PA, then we will check out the ones in your town.

  7. jane dandrea says:

    dr. flanagan, it would be so much easier for me here in town “if you feel one of them is qualified”. i had ccsvi treatment aug. 3. they say that some see improvements up to 3 mo. later. i had very slight for the better and got a numb leg immediately which is subsiding a little but then just go numb. never had numbness before. i will see a local vascular dr. next week and see what he thinks. my concern would be clotting. if he can test my flow and i restenosed i am in no hurry to do it again at this time. i really feel my narrowing and everything else came from the fall and has everything to do with this. now hopefully with your help “which i so greatly appreciate” i will be on the right track.” so no real big hurry i just gotta hope i get it right this time. thanks again.

    • Drs Flanagan says:

      I am working on it. If you can get me some info on the doctors in town such as where they went to school, when did they graduate, do they take x-rays, do they use physiotherapy and do they do SOT?

  8. jane dandrea says:

    dr. flanagan, ok will do. i will get back as soon as i can. thanks again

  9. Wheelchair Avenger says:

    Dr. Zamboni gave the first kick in the MS-BigPharma/autoimmune-disease scam’s ass.
    He has to be strongly supported much further because the pharma industry still has millions to invest in PR and media disinfo to save a billions $ captive market.
    Unlike the heads of the MS-business, Dr. Zamboni doesn’t seem to be an arrogant predator. Seek cooperation with him: that’s the best that can happen to the MS-patients!

  10. jane dandrea says:

    dr. flanagan, please don’t think i have given up on this. i have been trying to check out our local chiro.’s. so far not good. then this week was not very good for me feeling pretty rough. hopefully next week will be better and i’ll see what i can find. again thanks for your interest and help.

  11. jane dandrea says:

    dr. flanagan, i hear my friend was able to let you know what has been going on with me. i am still weakened and hope to start pursuing your suggestions again soon. you are becoming quite the popular new guy on the block. which is so well deserved. your knowledge, passion and compassion is rare but soooo much appreciated. we ms’ers are finally getting doctors of your nature in on this cruel and relentless disease that has devestated our lives. as sick as i am, i am so excited that everything i presented to dr. after dr. for 20 yrs. and got no answers. but instead i’d get the “look” or in some cases just a plain ignorant response is “finally” getting the attention needed. i hope it’s not too late for me and many others. we need you all and the best to you when you meet with dr. haacke. hopefully all the blinders come off, medicine quits having tunnel vision and as they say around here “getter done”! you are getting pretty busy. would it be better if i communicate through tims with a pm? so you are not having to jump all over th place? just please don’t forget me i kinda hit another big speed bump in the road at this moment. thank you again.

    • Drs Flanagan says:

      Hi Jane, I am sorry to hear about the speed bump. Poet told me what happened. Anyway it’s good to have you back. I didn’t forget you. In fact your case kind of bugs me a bit. There are too many unanswered questions. It probably would be easier if you communicate with me through thisisms so lets give it a try. MFDC

  12. Wheelchair Avenger says:

    If “Zamboni is backed millions of research dollars and many(?) colleagues in western medicine throughout the world” this is good for you and for the patients, because the much more powerful Big Pharma, neurologists, immunologists and media work very hard to deny the vascular cause of MS.

    • The millions of publicly financed research dollars currently being spent on looking for stenosis in the jugular and azygous veins overlooks the more likely role of upper cervical syndromes in chronic craniocervical venous back pressure (CCVBP) and neurodegenerative diseases. As far as many(?) colleagues are concerned. There are CCSVI clinics in the USA, Canada, Mexico, Italy, Poland and India and many more will line up to do the procedure if they can get paid for it, which costs about 13 to 20 thousand dollars from what I have read. There are no equivalent special screening and treatment facilities in chiropractic, let alone research, even though the vertebral veins are critical to humans and upright posture.

  13. Mark Wasley says:

    Regarding Jane Dandrea;
    I have read her emails and based on her case, I strongly suggest she look into Bio Cranial therapy; I suspect the cervical area is not the primary problem but will be corrected after the cranial bone misalignment is resolved. This treatment is non invasive and fast not requiring any
    x-rays. Find a very experienced practicioner in this…..it is critical to acheive success.

  14. Julie says:

    I just had the privilege of meeting Dr. Conicello. I had 3 visits as part of his initial package. I was more than impressed. I have had MS for 20 years. I had CCSVI in Albany in Oct 2010 with no benefit and I spent the last year under an atlas orthogonist with no new symptoms but worsening of existing. I only hope I am barking up the right tree this time. He mentioned the Italian study and said that he and his colleagues had impressive results and he thinks he can help me. Of course I heard that from my last chiropractor. Jane, if you are still checking in here or are interested I can tell you where you can find him.

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